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« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2004, 06:38:08 AM »

I think he wrote it himself.
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« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2004, 11:57:47 PM »

I wrote that all by myself.
Mommy wow!
I'm a big kid now!
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« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2004, 02:53:34 AM »

The poem's nice, but I'm sure you know that can't count as evidence that Baba Yaga is pure evil, since it's made up rather than a quote from any of the folk tales. It's like me claiming that Superman is evil just because I wrote a poem saying that he is.  

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Ermm... don't you have anything better to quote than a Huggies diaper quote? blink
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« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2004, 02:58:55 AM »

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Ermm... don't you have anything better to quote than a Huggies diaper quote? 

When you put it that way, it sounds weirder then it really is.
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« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2004, 05:30:12 AM »

No, you're wrong, no, yes, no and no.

You see...

Baba Yaga is pure evil.

Why else would she have *human* skulls all around her yard? And poisoned spears for a fence?

Why *else* would she curse the baron?

And, uhm... recruit the goblins?
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« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2004, 05:43:38 AM »

The skulls and fence are probably there to tell visitors that she doesn't like being disturbed? Kinda like a "Do Not Disturb" sign, but more effective.

As for why she cursed the baron, well wasn't she offended by something he did and wanted to get even? That's not necessarily a bad thing.

And you have no proof that she recruited those goblins.

I prefer to think of Baba Yaga as a character who's somewhere inbetween the good and evil camp.  
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« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2004, 05:46:00 AM »

The Baron wanted to kick her out of Spielburg. You know, maybe thats how she ended up the way she is now...
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« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2004, 06:05:56 AM »

No no no, that is clearly not the case.

She KILLED all the skulls you see, brutally, and forced them into the cruel undeath for her own designs.

Sure, the Baron was against the EVIL in his valley, and as such, Baba Yaga cursed him by taking away his children and making his castle weak. Think about it; His children have left him. That's an incredibly cruel, evil thing to do to a man, if you think about it.

And she recruited the goblins. They hang out directly to the south of her. Thus, she must have had something with their little camp being there.
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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2004, 06:36:56 AM »

Again, where's the proof that she indeed kill to get those skulls, that she didn't just dig up some graves to get them, or that she had indeed hired those goblins? Those goblins could just be there because they like the place.

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And she recruited the goblins. They hang out directly to the south of her. Thus, she must have had something with their little camp being there.

This is just cooincidence. It's not enough to prove anything.

As for the baron, what she did was an evil thing, but it doesn't prove that she's pure evil. There's a difference between a bad character and a purely evil one.
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« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2004, 06:39:42 AM »

If I remember, the skulls are the remains of the soldiers the Baron sent to get rid of her. As for the goblins, who knows how long they've been there?
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« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2004, 06:57:48 AM »

So maybe those skulls belonged to the poor, unfortunate soldiers sent to get rid of her. How is her killing them any worse than the hero killing those monsters and brigands that wandered the forests? You could argue that she was doing it in self-defence, and put up the skulls as a warning so that there won't be any more bloodshed.
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« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2004, 07:01:31 AM »

I wonder what she was like before the events of the first game... Maybe she had some bad things happening to her earlier and the Baron incident was the last straw.
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« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2004, 02:01:14 AM »

But she... she... it... he... they...

That's it, I'm moving to Idaho.

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