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Title: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Oijl on June 27, 2006, 01:02:21 AM
I bought the anthology CD, a while back, but (I'm sorry!) it has become scratched, and the fourth game doesn't work. At any rate, I lost it, so I can't play the third or fourth (the first and second are easy to find on the web).

Just as you would give to Sam, in the alley of Spielburg, will you not also give to Oijl, as he raises his begging bowl up to you, a whine in his voice and pleading in his eye?


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Swift on June 27, 2006, 02:35:56 AM
Sorry, no can do. Even if someone wants to, he's legal-bound not to, and it's against the forum rule. Since you still have the CD, you can attempt to purchase CD fixing tools to restore it.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Oijl on June 27, 2006, 02:49:29 AM
Alas.  Anyway, thanks.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Silverbolt on June 27, 2006, 08:07:41 AM
I hear rumors of toothpaste and CD repairs, but I wouldn't vouch for it until the Mythbusters prove it.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Corsair5 on June 27, 2006, 01:51:18 PM
Have you tried cleaning the disk?


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Swift on June 27, 2006, 02:24:35 PM
According to the google search, one way to deal with deep scratches is to take the CD to a DVD video or CD music rental store and have them repair it for a modest fee. Another way is to purchase a disk repair kit.

http://www.infopackets.com/channels/en/win...disc_part_2.htm (http://www.infopackets.com/channels/en/windows/gazette/2005/20050603_remove_scratches_from_cd_or_dvd_compact_disc_part_2.htm)
http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/resource...damaged-cd.html (http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/resource/tips-tricks/2005/repair-damaged-cd.html)


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Raito on June 27, 2006, 03:03:22 PM
Maybe you could try looking for the cd again and trying to copy its' contents onto your hdd? I'm not sure if you can make a personal backup though. I mean, sometimes, with luck you could try.

Also, cd repair kits don't really help. The purpose of the liquid in such kits is to remove the scratched surface, so you're actually wearing the cd thin.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Oijl on June 27, 2006, 03:27:51 PM
I appreciate this much speculation towards solutions - yet still it is sooth when she says, "scratched surfaces scarcely see salvation."

It's against forum rules, though, to share the games that are not abandonware?  That would be for legal reasons, aye; the games are not produced anymore, however, so I simply wonder why such laws are still in effect.  Unless there is some still unseen (by me) way they come out with a slight profit.  Are there any answers for that?  Or is this just one of the things of the world that has no answer?


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Silverbolt on June 27, 2006, 04:32:59 PM
If a game is not abandonware it means that the company still retains commercial rights to it.

Therefore, piracy, or its illegal downloading is...not...legal.

And we as an organization (not necessarily individually  :-[) are against piracy, and do not offer links or otherwise by using these forums (post or PM).

Therefore, sorry, we cannot offer any solutions, advice, or help regarding "procuring" those games.

I feel like a corporate drone saying this. <_<


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Oijl on June 27, 2006, 05:40:32 PM
And, sound like one, too.  But that's not too bad.

Yes, I know that it is illegal, and that it's illegal because they retain the copywrite laws.  What I have yet to comprehend is why they choose to still retain the copywrite laws when they make no more money from it.  But, as I said, maybe they do still make money, and I just don't know how.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Silverbolt on June 27, 2006, 06:22:12 PM
DON'T tempt me, Frodo!

I have no good things to say on the matter, so shut up the hell, I will.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Corsair5 on June 27, 2006, 08:48:24 PM
Oijl, you have to understand, this site is teetering on the legality scale, and giving you a link to an illegal download is just the kind of thing that could sink this project with a C&D letter. We can't help you get an illegal copy. I'm sorry, but you'll have to ask someone else.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Oijl on June 28, 2006, 12:30:20 AM
Corsair5, I like you for your signature.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Swift on June 28, 2006, 02:45:17 AM
Thy keep the rights in case they wish to profit from it in the future, and to prevent others from profiting at their expense. It's also a way to safeguard their reputation, since they don't allow others to make what might be of inferior quality and tarnish their reputation.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Oijl on June 28, 2006, 03:49:06 AM
That makes sense enough.  You're a help, Swift.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: lazygamer on June 28, 2006, 05:07:11 AM
Oijl, you have to understand, this site is teetering on the legality scale, and giving you a link to an illegal download is just the kind of thing that could sink this project with a C&D letter. We can't help you get an illegal copy. I'm sorry, but you'll have to ask someone else.

Even without the risk of C&Ds, this site could still be shutdown for having links to illegal software.

Thy keep the rights in case they wish to profit from it in the future, and to prevent others from profiting at their expense. It's also a way to safeguard their reputation, since they don't allow others to make what might be of inferior quality and tarnish their reputation.

Well that's the logical explantion. My cynical explanation is that companies like to horde their copyrights, no matter how insignificant these copyrights have become. ;)


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Swift on June 28, 2006, 07:12:46 AM
Thanks, Oijl.

Well that's the logical explantion. My cynical explanation is that companies like to horde their copyrights, no matter how insignificant these copyrights have become. ;)

Very true.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Silverbolt on June 28, 2006, 09:03:18 AM
Thy keep the rights in case they wish to profit from it in the future, and to prevent others from profiting at their expense. It's also a way to safeguard their reputation, since they don't allow others to make what might be of inferior quality and tarnish their reputation.

Or seeing how Sierra is long-dead, it could be just about the money.  ;)


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: lazygamer on June 28, 2006, 09:55:42 AM
Or seeing how Sierra is long-dead, it could be just about the money.  ;)

Well that's the funny thing, even if is just about the money, what money is there? Sierra selling collections of their old games would be a drop in the bucket compared to selling modern mainstream titles. They also don't seem to be interested in creating new games off of these old licenses... probably because adventure games aren't high profit titles.

I think a good example of this is KQ9. Vivendi was impressed enough with it to let it survive(it doesn't tarnish reputation at all), they could have made a rule that the finished KQ9 would only be sold by Vivendi and not a free download. They didn't do this, probably because they consider it a niche title.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Silverbolt on June 28, 2006, 10:19:12 AM
Maybe VU will make it into a MMORPG just to squeeze money out of the franchise.

Battle countless monsters in Glorianna! Solve complicated delivery quests and mind-blowing hack 'n slash action. Get caled a "l4m3"r and "ghey" by one of the 100.000 players in this online experience!

Choose one of our 20 classes, including the Paladin, Wizard, Thief, Necromancer, Rogue or even Gnome Jester. Use over 30.000 skills to conquer your adversaries and spare no one.

Coming soon..."Quest for Glory Online: So you want to screw up a perfectly good series for profit alone!"

Give us your money.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Ignus_Draconus on July 01, 2006, 09:16:33 PM
oh good heavens no. may that never, Ever, come to pass


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Striker on July 01, 2006, 10:45:34 PM
Actually, I think Lori was pushing for something like a QFG MMO back around the QFG5 was released.  At least, I remember her saying something to that effect on the QFG5.com forums way back when.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: lazygamer on July 02, 2006, 03:22:33 AM
Well that would of been 1999? People probably weren't as cynical about MMOs back then, and I doubt Lori fully understood the ramifications of a QFG MMO(ie: It'd be alot like Silverbolt described).


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Raito on July 08, 2006, 07:53:28 AM
Yes but in those days, MMO was still a very fresh concept. These days, many games support MMO and MMOs are overrun by spoilt kids with parents who can't be bothered to deal with them.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Silverbolt on July 08, 2006, 09:50:34 AM
SELLING RAKEESHS PALADIN SWORD WHISP WITH OFFER PLZ!!1  :dry:


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Corsair5 on July 11, 2006, 05:05:26 AM
R0FL 607 1337 DARGON ARMOR + DRAGIN SLAYR SWD! SIX THOUSAND G SEND TELL!


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: Ignus_Draconus on July 11, 2006, 05:40:04 PM
oh for goodness' sake, stop now before we all go insane.


Title: Re: Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness
Post by: lazygamer on July 12, 2006, 01:38:38 AM
Yes but in those days, MMO was still a very fresh concept. These days, many games support MMO and MMOs are overrun by spoilt kids with parents who can't be bothered to deal with them.

Very true, MMOs would garner more respect if wasn't for those negative sterotypes.