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It is now 2006, and HERO6 has yet to be completed. Acknolwedged that this is a spare time project, but even The Silver Lining is coming together sooner than expected. Will you finish it THIS year, or will you continue to let it go. If I knew I had something to offer your team, I would gladly help, but as of now, I'm in search of a career, and I need Professional experience, not side projects. Please get this underway, we have been waiting for quite some time.

Error 52's Be Damned!

Well, I'm not qualified to give a release term, but seeing how I seem to be the only one around at this point, let me just say this:

Trust me. Work is being done. The game is GOING to come out.

The Silver Lining Team is only releasing the first chapter of a game, not the full game. If Hero6 had chosen to release only chapter 1, it would have been released years ago. No one in this team has "continued to let it go", so I don't know where you got that impression from. Just ask any of the newer members, like Silverbolt and ReishVedaur, and they'll tell you that the team is working hard to get the game ready.

Giving out a release date at this stage is premature. While we do hope to release it as soon as possible, we do have other factors to contend with, like real-life issues and work. You yourself would rather get a career than bring a project to completion. What about us in the team? Please understand that this is a volunteer project, and our work will have to be attended to first before we can focus on the game's development.

As for your other point, that professional experience rather than side projects is preferred, that isn't always true. What recruiters want to see is what professional and transferrable skills (communication, co-operativeness, leadership qualities, organizational skills, creativity, etc) you have, and if you can demonstrate that such side projects have developed your transferrable skills, you would have a better chance of standing out over the next guy who doesn't appear to have much transferrable skills.

Of course it will be done this year!  2006 was the year we planned for hero6's release in the first place!  

Look for the sequel in '07.  Wait, on second thought, we might do a prequel.  Look for that one in 3005.
 

Patience, child. Be patient as we all have, and you'll get your wish. Be impatient, and the Hero6Fairy will leave an acidic tablet on your pillow to cause you much pain, as well as going bald before your time. Though I do not wish to bestow upon you the pain of such misfortune, know that I do posess the power to do so. Be patient.

Or be fearful. Ha ha ha ha ha ha haa...

How can you not love this place? ^_^

Hmmm... we're not doing anything, righhhhhttt.

I don't think that's the case since I've been submitting more than 20 pages of bug reports for programming, art and other departments to fix. These include errors, crashes, suggestions on gameplay and game user interface.

Work is ongoing and fixes are being constantly released. The only problem is finding enough people to do the heavy work like programming, art and music. Well, we're lacking in staff but we'll get by.

Meanwhile, I doubt we owe anything much to our fans, apart from putting out a good quality game. Sure, we could be fast and release a game asap, but would you rather a game that crashes once every few minutes or something that delivers smooth gameplay?

... and, seriously, when you see the MASSIVE size of the game, you'll instantly understand why it took so long to make, considering it was made by a bunch of friends in their homes ontheir spare time.
 

Not to mention that now everyone is getting quite busy in their real life.  

Friggin' 12th grade... <_<  

Im sure Hero 6 will be finished soon, I think some people just don't realise how much work it is to do something like this in your spare time, heck I applied for Hero 6 ages ago and I STILL havn't managed to send my sample pieces to Ianfe, which made me realise how much work it is to do this kind of thing in your spare time.

The Hero 6 team have done masses of work, and we admireres can hardely complain, after all we just have to sit back in our chair and wait while they do all the work, and to top that we get a free game out of it too!

I too am very interested to know the release date of Hero6, but I also understand that the longer it takes the better quality game we will get.

Can I also just point out that working on a freeware game is great experience, after all everyone needs to start somewhere.

Dav

P.S Sorry about the samples Ianfe, life is extremely busy right now with all the exams.

Members should keep in mind when things come up like this that Hero6 has been around for... 3 years now? 4? And status reports are few and far between. It's all fine and dandy to say 'work is being done,' but after a couple of years... one begins to wonder.

Now, this isn't a demand that work be done or a game be released or etc., nor is it a complaint (as several of you say, it's being done by people in their spare time on their own computers). But instead of getting defensive "We're working on it! Jeez!" etc, you should bear in mind that it has been multiple years since any real progress has been reported or status update given. With commercial software, that's called vaporware (or Duke Nukem Forever). Again, not criticism (well, slight criticism - there would be less 'when will this be finished' questions if status updates were given more regularly (say, once a month or so) or more often), just a possible insight into the minds of those who continually post 'when is this ever going to be finished?'

Cheers!

I understand what you mean, which is why I released the designer journal in December.  http://visitors.hero6.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=665 (http://visitors.hero6.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=665)

This is the status report on the progress, so you can rest assured that work is being done. If possible, it'll be updated bi-monthly.

We've been in development 7 years.

PHattiE fact: it takes 11,392 hours to create and finish an adventure game from scratch

Universal fact: When only spending 4 hours a day towards a 11,392-hour project, it will take 8 years to complete.


What I'm trying to say is that people can stop questioning whether or not we are vaporware.  The logic that "X amount of years have elapsed and it isn't finished, therefore it is vaporware" is completely flawed.

Hero6's release is dependant on how motivated and available our members are.  Think of it like downloading a really big file on an unreliable internet connection.  When your bandwidth drops from 450kb/s to 1kb/s, all of a sudden your expected download completion time jumps up a couple of hours or even days.  That doesn't mean that you won't get your file, it just means you got a lot of waiting to do.

Right now our resources are a little thin.  It will probably jump back up again sometime soon.  This type of "rollercoaster productivity" is the way hero6 has been developed over the past 4 years.

That phattie fact needs some further explaning. Adventure games can vary in size and complexity quite a bit. Is it 11,392 hours for a game like Hero6 or just a medium size VGA adventure game?

Oh and that is 11,392 hours for one person right(as opposed to a team)? Hero6 is by no means a solo team, although perhaps it's daily efforts have averaged out to 4 hours a day! :)

Since Hero6 started as an amateur project by amateur amateur game designers(:lol:), I'd think some of those early years might not have been spent too efficiently. IE: Art that is too low quality to be used today, indecisiveness about the plot etc. So either Hero6 still has a long way to go OR the team has been making up for lost time. ;)

Actually, Mr lazy, the size of the adventure game is only a small variable in determining the hours needed to complete an adventure game.

Alright, I was going to explain the mathmatics of determining game creation hours; however a brilliant--- no, GENIUS idea came to me (©)!!  

I want to start a contest:

Everyone is going to make an adventure game!!!

Here are the rules:

a - You are allowed 2 weeks to create it
b - You must use AGS
c - You must use minimal art (stick figures or ripped art... nothing fancy)
d - You must have a complete and UNIQUE story with puzzles--but not more than 30 minutes of gameplay
e - Music optional

At the end of 2 weeks, we all get to download each other's games and determine the winner!!!

Cool, or what?  I think it's freakin' awesome.  See, because then we can rank each other's design skills AND have fun playin' new games!  Plus people are eligible to biatch and moan about how slow we are because they have experience making a game!

We might need to let people ramp up on AGS first, but AGS is super simple to learn, so that's not a big deal.  I bet anyone could complete an adventure game in 2 weeks.  The slow part is getting together quality art work, a complex story, a solid game engine, and good music.  But we forgo all of this in the contest with the rules!  

So?  Who's with me??!?  I'm in.  But I ain't gonna start until we have at least 5 other people enter the contest.

PS. We could even invite people from other forums like the AGS forums.  I know a lot of people have good game dev ideas-- this would give them a chance to get started on their game project, and then use their little stickfigure game as a lure to get members to join their team.

What's the prize? There has to be an incentive for this.

I'd love to.  Maybe gnab my friend Coleman for the programming while I do art and story... Yeah, that could work.

How 'bout this:  1 year of hosting through goddady.com paid by yours truly?

You can use that hosting to advertise your new game!


I think it'd be a fun contest, but I can't tell you how ridiculously busy I've been recently.  I spend my weekdays AND weekends at work (12 hour days - with a 2 hour excursion to the gym around noon).  I really want to submit my own creation to the contest, but I can't seem to figure out how I'd get the time...

But there are a lot of people who want to create their own adventure games, and I'd love to see them do it.  So we need to get some people interested in this contest to come by and discuss.  We need a start date and a submission cut-off date...

PS- I think I could get my brother to start-up a forum for us to discuss and help people with AGS.  He has a website called youngwritersforum.net... I think it'd be a great place to gather, since adventure game design is a form of writing (just a different medium).  That way we can be indifferent as to where submissions are coming from.  I'll post about this later

you serious about that Phattie?? lol,  if you were, I wish I could program, cuz I can't program worth a dang..


I been off this foum for like,4 or 5 months, and I thought Hero 6 would be done by now,since last time I was here, someone wrote a preview for Hero6..

PHattiE's definitely serious about it.

Well, I like the idea, PHattiE, but we really need to plan this carefully, or we'll wind up having a similar situation to what Bioware's having with their contest at the moment, where people were confused by the vague rules and the rules continued to shift around even after the contest deadline.

I sorta went off-topic, so I'll start a new thread in the "Off-topic Mayhem"

I was on the original team 7 years ago, and thats exactly what it was. The fact that is was a large team actually detered progress. Because of the lack of progress I can only assume that this is still the case, though I hope not. I always check back periodically to see if progress has been made still.

hey look i could have logged in!

sorry about the double quote/post.

Hi Ovulator. Progress is still being made. In fact, I'm in the process of scripting the Innkeeper's dialogue for the demo. Four dialogues have been done so far within these three days and there's two more to put in, which should hopefully be done by this weekend. Which department were you originally from? Are you able to come back to help speed up progress?

[edit] Finished scripting.

Demo? I thought there weren't gonna be any more demos.

Yes, there won't be any demos released to the public, but that doesn't mean there aren't any demos created for the team. I think they call it a demo because not all the content is scripted yet.

(Note: The following is not affiliated with the true opinion of the esteemed Corsair)

I hate you, Swift. You said that JUST so I'd get my hopes up.

Yah when I heard her say demo my hopes rose for a moment. Than I realized that demo could just be their slang for alpha. :)

It's still sadism.

I love my job.  :blackguard:  

Yeah, I bet you do. That's something I would do. Which is why I hate it so much.

can't bear to have someone stealing your style, eh corsair?

No, I just hate having my own tricks turned against me. But that's part of it, too, I suppose.

Actually... it's the first 3 chapters(which comprise Part 1: Shadows). Yeah, I'm nitpicking(and late), but I felt the need to say it. :P


Which reminds me... when DOES the voting end for it(the Bioware contest)? I've been planning to vote... but haven't quite got around to it yet. ;P

and I'd actually join in the(Adventure game) contest... but I don't have the time. :-\

As a final note(to stay on-topic)... considering the amount of time it has taken for many retail games to be created(where the staff works full time, I might add), I fail to see any reason to complain about however long this game takes to make. ;)

I see. Oopsie. :emb:


The voting for the Bioware Contest ends sometime near the end of March. Please vote asap. Thanks.

I am patiently waiting.  But, I have to say this...I highly respect and admire the people who are taking the time to do this project...it is entirely volunteer and just knowing that somebody is working on a sequel is so encouraging.  We might not have anything...at least right now we have something to look forward to.  I really am happy about that!!!!   Btw, if you need any script writing, editing or voice acting...let me know...that is sadly all I am really qualified to do....but I would be more than happy to help!!!!

Thank you so much to all of the people working on this project... I am sure that you are as anxious as all of us to see this project done!!!

~meena  :)

Yeah Im new to this forum but I did stop by this site a long long time ago. Maybe 4 years i think. I am not sure how complete the project is or anything and I have no clue if anyone posts here anymore. I do know that when I first played quest for glory 4 as a kid thats what made me decide to be a computer game designer. I remember how much fun the game was for me and I felt so connected to the game that I lived in mordavia for awhile. I have a lot to say and dont know if anyone shows up. Do cori and lori cole know about this? Do they appreciate it. How's come the hero looks younger than he looked in quest for glory 5? I would say he should be maybe mid 20's game wise. Real life wise mid 30's. What type of code is being used? I would love to help out any way I can. I play d&D a lot and am a expert dm and would love to help with storyline and perhaps art? If anyone reads this let me know. Okay I think thats it for now. Have a good day and if anyone reads this please respond.

I still read this forum. Lori and Corey do know about this project. Hero6 is not a sequel to QFG. You start with a different hero, hence the young look. If you want to help out the project, there's the Apply button on the main page.

Do people still come here? They certainly do(or so I assume), but a lack of news and a lack of forum activity make them come here less.

I have been coming here for a long long time (December 10, 2001, 04:13:28 AM registration date) and still visit to check up on things from time to time.  Ill be around for till they release. :)

its even worse on the members forums. No activity at all the past month.

It's depressing, tha's what it is. Look: :(

i just joined this site today, and i was amazed that such a site exsisted. i LOVED the qfg-series. I just want to say that i hope this game will soon be finished and i think u guys are doing an awesome piece of work. this is the best thing that happened since some guy made that qfg 4½ it was hillarious. (by the way does someone have that game, cause i lost that file along with my old pc?)

It's sort of not allowed to discuss the game (QFG 4 1/2) in detail since we're trying to keep the forum family friendly and the game itself contains pornography and stuff.

It's not hard to find. Just look for it if you really want to.

i am wondering if there sia ny rough release date on this project?

It'll be done when it's done.

Hello all.  First post.  I've been following this project since the early 2000's, and look forward to it's completion.  I played the demo years ago, and enjoyed it a great deal.  Keep plugging away guys, and we're all grateful for your efforts. 

Thank you for your part in keeping the spirit of QFG alive.
-Bear

Hey everybody!! I haven't been on this site for so long! I have completely lost track of what's going on, but I'm glad to see the site is still here and wheels might still be in motion! ~dreamer~