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Actually, Sierra makes nothing. Sierra has been closed down permanently. All offices are gone, all employees laid off. The only thing left is what they made before they closed, and nobody at Vavindi is touching it, so...they dead.

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May those who worked diligently to bring us bliss and joy in the gaming world be forever remembered as the geniouses they are.

You know, it would be interesting if Bethesda picked up QFG.

Or BioWare, while we're at it...

Oh wait...it would suck...because then the Team here would have wasted their efforts on nothing.

Don't bother Bethesda! I want to see Oblivion and Fallout 3. :P

As for Bio-ware...yes, it could work, but then we'll have 20 classes to pick from and hundreds of feats... :o

Come on...this is more of an adventure than an RPG...No one would do adventure games for money...it's sad, but it's the truth. Kids these days want violence, sex, state of the art graphics and look at us like we're insane when we play 256 color quests. :unsure:  

Actually, Broken Sword has proven that it can be done...

And besides that, I feel that Adventure Games may inevitably come back...

Let's face it, people these days are STUPID. They don't have the brains or the patience to solve a puzzle, so they go and shoot stuff. Sure, there are exceptions, but not many of them.

Actually, it's exactly the same. It's just that more people are interested and able to play video games then before. The same people who liked the adventure games are still here, they're just crowded out by the people who like shoot-'em ups.

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What is wrong with guns and good graphcis and sex  in games?? that is the new age now. QFG and Hero 6, Dragion Warrior, etc..., may not be the style now, but it doesn't mean no one lieks Adventure Games! One and probably only thing is,Corsair, you kill people with guns, unlike in QFG for example, you kill them with swords, get it?? I play game where you gotta blow people up,  but I prefer Adventure Games like King's Quest,Hero 6,QFG over them any damn day if I had too. their might be 1,000,000-2,000,000 adventure people here, but say, their might be 50,000,000 shooter people here. adventure people are still around,but are push off to the side.



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Warman8

What I basically said.

And Adventure Games will return. I believe they will be necissary in the next step of gaming.

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I post things in my way to make it sound better.lol. just joking. but yeah, they will return, but not now. mabye in 5 years or so they will, might not be now, but they will later.

I wonder if alot of these shooter fans would be interested in adventure games, but haven't had alot of exposure to them. Shooters have gotten more complex over the years, so shooter fans can't all be braindead.

Adventure! Adventure! The King! THE KING!

Oh, yeah. RPGs can stay too.

Well, the reason I said I think Adventure games will return is because, as I said, the next step of video game tech will need them: Virtual Reality.
Right now, it's just a toy or a novelty the tech people are working on. But some day (soon...?), it will become a viable commercial opportunity. And when that happens, game makers will suddenly have a whole new game media on their hands. What do they do with it? How will they code it, program it? What are its limits? Then, in order to get their feet wet and learn what they can, they'll turn to the simplest game form out there: adventure games and RPGs.
Think about it. Unlike all the other game forms, those two are the most scripted. The most linear. That's not a bad thing, since they ARE going for plot, but for the game developer, it makes their development easier, since they don't really have to worry about what happens if a user does this, this and this instead of what they intended.
VR, though, is no where near ready for any of that. The only advent I can see for Adventure games in the near future is with Voice Command, where you use your mic to tell the game what to do. In this case, of course, you'd use it to talk to characters in the game, and they talk back. I'd give that kind of tech 5, maybe 10 years to develop if they try, which they are.

Yes, but there's a difference. Adventure games don't rely on that. I mean seriously. Can you compare QFG with Painkiller?

Killing stuff is one thing. Killing stuff in a violent manner and watching their intestines fly around while painting an entire wall with their blood is waaaaaaay different than slash/slash/thrust/parry/chop/kill.

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NO... I can't. Painkiller isn't a advanture game. it's like a RPG/ First person shooter type game. new time periods. people who are 10-15 year old kids probably was born in 1985-1992 sometime, and was born with shooter games. alot of people ,like me, who was born in 1992, or other years like that, play both kinds of games,shooter and adventure cuz I had a brother who plays QFG , like I said before. but shooter games have missions too, don't think they don't. people aren't stupid, just adventures games are the lowest of the lowest, then comes RPG,shooter, etc.. I think adventures games will come back, I said that. but not now.. unless you can become a rival with become companies, which I doubt it.. Like I said for 2 or 3 times now, adventures games with be beack, give it some time guys..





KingWarman8

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Wow, the topic is starting to get heated.

Shooters are much simpler than Adventure games. Just have a cool death scream and nifty guns, slap on a shoddy, cliche plot and a physics engine, and you have a shooter. Whereas, for a good adventure, you need a good plot, an explanation, and a conclusion. I mean, how good would KQ have been if you just had a couple of people with no real reason, just trying to solve puzzles.

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Paladin,  I love heated topics. gets me started in a good way  :lol:


Yeah, But in Shooters, you got to think to. like in For Example,Spinter Cell,for example, if you  have to get out a guy..... should I use him for a shield,shot him,knock him out, use him for info then do whatever?  Shooters game might be easier and not as complex as in Adventures game, but you still have to use logic for god sake in both games.. People aren't stupid, they just wasn't born with QFG and/ or who had brothers who played it. if my brother was 5 years younger or mabye 10 years younger oe 15 years older, he probably won't be playing QFG when he was a kid, but say if he was yuonger, he would be playing shooter games, like I do. but since he played QFG, I do too... See how it works out??

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I was born in 1987 and played QFG in 2000.

Splinter Cell isn't a shooter. It's a Tactical/Stealth Game. Big difference, buddy.

Actually, it all depends on what aspect of the game you're talking about. If you're talking about the game IDEA, then yes, shooters are way more simplistic. If you're talking about actually MAKING the game...well, that's different. It's a lot easier to script everything that's supposed to happen and make it a completely linear experience, then to allow the player complete movement and freedom to go and do what they want. It all depends on what you want out of the game. For plot, memoriable characters, and some creative puzzles, you should go for adventures. For freedom of movement, replayability, and strategization, go for shooters. It all depends on what you're taste is at that time.
That doesn't mean, of course, that those are exclusive to just those two genres. If the game designers really push it, they can include most or all of the other attributes in the one game. And, of course, there are mixed genres, which do all of the above, but not quite as well.
So yeah, different people, with different moods, want different games at different times. ANd be thankfull for the changing times, too. Otherwise we might not have been blessed with games such as The Sims, or C&C, or Half Life. We'd pretty much have ONLY Adventure games (and maybe RPGs).
 

yes, life would get awful boring without command & conquer.

Bah, C&C is dead. All hail Blizzard, lord of the RTS! And StarCraft, their favored child! And WarCraft, their eldest child!

Diablo is the youngest.

I beg your pardon, C&C is not dead. and their plots are much more interesting than warcraft

Splinter cell sounds like an advanced shooter(whereas as Doom3 is a simple shooter). I define shooter as a game where the player uses his gun frequently in order to deal with enemies. The player has to use his gun so frequently throughout most areas of the game that it only makes sense to have it readied all the time.



Yes in a game like Splinter Cell, but not all shooters are made like Splinter Cell. Some are just in your face mindless action.

Can anyone here say "Doom 3"? That's right kids, you all get a gold star!

Seriosuly, I think that games are really just like fassion: eventually, they come around full circle, and what was once passe' becomes all the rage again.

I think the cycle has something to do with what children enjoy while growing up

Command and Conquer Plot: Lets see..how about Red Alert 2.

The Evil Communist Ruskies with their mind control program invade the United States.

Now..Warcraft III story.

The Lich King of Northrend has sent a vile plague that is ravaging the northlands of Lordaeron. Meanwhile, the Demon King, Sargeras, is preparing for a second invasion of Azeroth. And, far in the east, the mysterious Night Elves are gearing for war, waiting for what is to come.

And Splinter cell is no more a shooter than WarCraft is an RPG. Sure, they have some elements, but that isn't what they are at the core.

Now it ain't as simple as all that...

Yeah, it is.

C&C and WOW are two different things. If you mean the WarCraft games, then you'd be right, though.

And, no, Splinter Cell is not a shooter. It's a Tactical Action game. Could it be considered a shooter? I guess so. But the whole point of the genre is different.

it's a simple shooter. you shoot people besides using stealh.

Have you ever PLAYED Splinter Cell? You don't SHOOT that much. I mean, I guess you could consider the QFG games to be Action games because you kill stuff or whatever. But Splinter Cell isn't a shooter. It's a Stealth game with shooter elements. Just like QFG is an Adventure Game with RPG elements.

Oh, yeah. And MGS isn't a stealth game, no matter what anyone tells you. In that you get fricking assault rifles.

I play it,god, if I didn't I would not B.S ing about it then!

I was being more derisive than serious. I didn't think you'd talk about Splinter Cell if you'd never played it.

lol. ahh,this is getting old.

getting? it started that way