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Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 13, 2005, 08:23:03 AM
Please vote and state your reasons for your preference. Thank you.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jafar on March 13, 2005, 10:32:34 AM
NWN.
Me and Swift have done a NWN RP before, and I really liked the setting, characters, etc. And It'll keep me busy until I can get the game. :P  


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 13, 2005, 01:08:12 PM
Cool, if the majority vote for NWN, then that'll most likely be the next RP.

I voted for the 'Forces of Nature', by the way, 'cause I hate how it's still not finished after all this while.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jafar on March 13, 2005, 02:01:40 PM
Yeah, we really outta drag LN out of the spudnut shop and finish it. :rolleyes:  


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 13, 2005, 03:01:33 PM
Not necessarily. His character's trapped, remember? If he doesn't turn up to finish it with us, we'll just save his character and leave it at that.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 13, 2005, 08:08:36 PM
Personally, I'd like to continue the plot of Talisman Trouble. You recall, the Ghost of Dmitri mentioned that evil was stirring in Rasier. Perfect plot for a continuation, what what? I've even got a Villain all ready.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Striker on March 13, 2005, 09:32:07 PM
I don't have any preference really. As long as Corsair's not playing a villain, I'm cool for the most part.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Pwincess on March 13, 2005, 09:39:05 PM
Neverwinter Nights Official Campaign RP, QFG style


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Striker on March 13, 2005, 10:01:19 PM
Arg, I take that back... I didn't really like NWN Official campaign.

Would we be following the same plot?  Because I really don't think I could enjoy re-enacting a mediocre story without the visuals of NWN.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 13, 2005, 11:17:13 PM
What's wrong with me being a villain?

Oh, yeah..and, NWN RP might be fun..but..uh..If I have to deal with Aribeth again, I might snap.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Striker on March 14, 2005, 03:46:51 AM
Simple, you suck at it.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 14, 2005, 04:48:55 AM
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Arg, I take that back... I didn't really like NWN Official campaign.

Would we be following the same plot?  Because I really don't think I could enjoy re-enacting a mediocre story without the visuals of NWN.
*addresses both Striker and Corsair* Ok, enough fighting guys. It's still possible for Corsair to improve.

Now, as for the quote. I don't intend to follow the storyline rigidly. Just the setting and some of the characters. I'm aiming for more character interaction, especially for henchmen, more puzzle-solving rather than "Enter a room full of monsters and kill everything in sight", and very likely a very different villain and end-objective. I may need some help from those who've played it before on how the storyline can be improved for this RP, so LB and Striker are free to add in their input.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Striker on March 14, 2005, 04:52:42 AM
Yeah, maybe he should *improve* by learning as a character that doesn't have such heavy control over the story such as a villain.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 14, 2005, 04:59:44 AM
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Personally, I'd like to continue the plot of Talisman Trouble. You recall, the Ghost of Dmitri mentioned that evil was stirring in Rasier. Perfect plot for a continuation, what what? I've even got a Villain all ready.
Technically, "Talisman Trouble" has been wrapped up. As for that part about evil gathering in Rasier, that'll be taken into consideration.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 14, 2005, 05:21:36 AM
Well, Striker, wasn't Sephiroth a major character? Or Kefka? Or Minos? Or Katrina? Villains that aren't major characters aren't usually much of villains. Besides, he had to be a LITTLE bit powerful. After all, there was five of you and one of him.

Also, about an NWN style RP, how about a continuation? You know, after the "Evil" is defeated (I'm not being descriptive because I don't want to give away too much) And, you know, in Shadows of Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark, you don't play as the first one. So, maybe we could do "After the Events of NWN: Original" thing.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 14, 2005, 05:35:20 AM
Not everyone here has played NWN in the first place, and wouldn't know what's going on if we did a continuation.  Maybe next time.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 14, 2005, 05:41:44 AM
Or, we could do it in the NWN world, AKA Faerun. I just don't want to have to deal with "Lady Aribeth De Tylmarande" again. I hate that woman.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Striker on March 14, 2005, 05:43:44 AM
Yeah, villains are supposed to be powerful, but that has nothing to do with it, you're just not good at playing them.  You know, now that I think about RPing and have played more, I ammend my position... It's not so much what you are playing as, but how you do it.

Aribeth was hot.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 14, 2005, 05:47:49 AM
Point taken. But I haven't played as a Villain in a while, and, to be honest, I did Kadis extremely poorly. I had intended to have a really cool backstory behind him, and he was SUPPOSED to be less of a brute and more of an evil mastermind. But I botched it.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jafar on March 14, 2005, 07:55:29 AM
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Personally, I'd like to continue the plot of Talisman Trouble.
I think it would be more of a spinoff then a continuation.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 14, 2005, 09:24:16 AM
*To the people who voted for "Other" but didn't specify what exactly, you should provide an example or an idea you have in mind, and not leave me to guess what that is.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jigen on March 14, 2005, 03:21:10 PM
Well no-one voted for another MRPS so I guess that means I'm off the hook.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 14, 2005, 04:30:26 PM
We could also do a QFG/SQ crossover.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jafar on March 15, 2005, 12:58:31 AM
How would THAT work? :huh:  


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Ignus_Draconus on March 15, 2005, 01:44:44 AM
I've never played NWN, and I can never be sure when I'll have the opportunity to purchase it. It sounds cool though


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 15, 2005, 07:49:28 PM
Easily, Jafar.

A: We (The Talisman Trouble Characters, along with a few additions, since Dmitri and Kadis are dead) are teleported like, 1500 years into the future, into Vohaul's Ship. We have to get to Vohaul, defeat him, get the plans for the Star O' Ubahr Death, and escape before the Self-destruct goes off. Then, we have to get a Time-Travel-Teleporter and take us back to whenever QFG is.

Or..

B: Roger Wilco and Vohaul are both sent back in time, to different parts of Glorianna, where they must have their final confrontation...with us by their side.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Lord_Bierhoff on March 15, 2005, 11:00:19 PM
I'm going to abstain from voting because I don't know if I'll be arround to play :(

I agree with Striker that following the NWN plot won't be the best idea. For one thing it would be long if we did everything (espetialy dungeons) in it's entirety.  It also has alot of fighting in it and I'm not sure how long it'll be able to stay "fresh" and engaging.  Also, several people already know the story line which makes it kinda unfair.
You could use Faerun, but from what I saw Morrowind has a beter developed world (granted I haven't bother buying Faerun books).
The story we started the other night with our Talisman characters in the Underdark was pretty neat.  I wouldn't mind seeing it better developed.
I also think a futuristic (SQ) game might be neat.  Particularly since one of the characters was a janitor and that appeals to my sense of humour.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Striker on March 15, 2005, 11:23:51 PM
Wow, yeah, Elder Scrolls (Morrowind) could be pretty awesome... it's fantasy but largely unique from Tolkien and DnD-esque worlds.  After immersing myself in that game, I became pretty well versed in its lore.

A Space Quest one would allow for an even greater range of imagination, given the fact you can come up with almost any weird alien race you wanted.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 16, 2005, 02:12:41 AM
Hmm...Elder Scrolls sounds interesting. I'm gonna put up some hyperlinks to Elder Scrolls info. Maps and races and the ilk. 56k Warning: This will take a LONG time to load for you.

The History of Elder Scrolls: Events of the Games (http://www.elderscrolls.com/codex/history_redguard.htm)

Elder Scrolls Races & Map (Note: Click on various locations of the map. Certain ones are homelands of the different races.) (http://www.elderscrolls.com/codex/history_redguard.htm)

Elder Scrolls Armors (http://www.elderscrolls.com/codex/codex_armor.htm)

Elder Scrolls Weaponry (http://www.elderscrolls.com/codex/codex_weapons.htm)

Elder Scrolls Alchemical items and food (http://www.elderscrolls.com/codex/codex_ingredients.htm)

And, finally, for information on the Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind, and the upcoming Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion,

The Elder Scrolls (http://www.elderscrolls.com/home/home.htm)


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 16, 2005, 03:38:48 AM
I'm not familiar Morrowind as I've never played the game, so I won't be able to spin a story from that setting. This is something that either LB or Striker can consider doing if they ever take over as DM at some point.

As for the points regarding NWN that LB mentioned, I'm inclined to agree with him, which is why I recommended that the story be altered to fit the QFG theme. So there'll be puzzle-solving, character interaction, and very likely a different villain, so that it'll be 'fresh', in that sense. Also, it's very likely that I'll only be using Chapter 1's setting. Having all four chapters would take far too long to wrap up.

 


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Ignus_Draconus on March 16, 2005, 03:44:07 AM
I've always wanted to do a science-fantasy work


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Striker on March 16, 2005, 03:48:22 AM
Well... Elder Scrolls does have the Dwemer... (or rather, had the Dwemer, their "technological" ruins still exist)


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Ignus_Draconus on March 16, 2005, 03:49:56 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of QG meets star-trek


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 16, 2005, 04:08:23 AM
Or QfG meets SQ.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Ignus_Draconus on March 16, 2005, 04:18:42 AM
only a little less random


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jafar on March 17, 2005, 03:08:53 PM
Can anything be less random with Corsair around? :winktongue:  


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 17, 2005, 03:13:36 PM
You know, I find it amusing that nobody voted for a QFG KQ crossover. Do you all think it's a bad idea or something?


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jafar on March 17, 2005, 03:15:16 PM
We could probably work it out. If you ask me, it's a better idea then a QFG\SQ crossover.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 17, 2005, 04:41:05 PM
Space...the Final Frontier. These are the Voyages of the Starship...Exitprise. Our
-4 year mission. To seek out new wife. To boldy go where no Cat in the Hat will ever come back!


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jafar on March 17, 2005, 05:12:51 PM
I still have both Cat in the Hat books. THose were the days...


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 17, 2005, 05:13:23 PM
With a sandwich.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jafar on March 17, 2005, 05:27:45 PM
Wrong thread, dude.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 17, 2005, 05:55:27 PM
No.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jafar on March 17, 2005, 06:24:48 PM
This (http://www.hero6.com/visitors/forums/index.php?showtopic=177) is the thread you should of posted in.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Brassfire on March 17, 2005, 10:11:54 PM
Did someone suggest a Morrowind RPS? That'd be way cooler than NWN.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 18, 2005, 12:37:33 AM
Yes, LB did. I know nothing of Morrowind so someone else can use that as a setting when it's his/her turn to DM.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 18, 2005, 01:32:36 AM
I could do it, theoretically. Yes, you quake in terror at that. But I've done it before, and I'm not bad at it.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 18, 2005, 01:39:33 AM
I'd rather the sessions be conducted by someone mature and with experience.  


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 18, 2005, 04:28:17 AM
*Rolls eyes* Just because I'm a raving lunatic on the forums doesn't mean I always am. Geez. And if it's absolutely necessary that you insult me, you could at least be a little more subtle.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Striker on March 18, 2005, 04:36:52 AM
Well, she is only telling the truth.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jarrod on March 18, 2005, 05:30:40 AM
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Yes, LB did. I know nothing of Morrowind so someone else can use that as a setting when it's his/her turn to DM.
Morrowind is a 1 player game.  You can create mods for it, but it stays a 1 player game unlike NWN.  


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 18, 2005, 07:06:17 AM
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*Rolls eyes* Just because I'm a raving lunatic on the forums doesn't mean I always am. Geez. And if it's absolutely necessary that you insult me, you could at least be a little more subtle.
I wasn't insulting you. Like Striker said, I was only telling you the truth. To be a DM is a huge responsibility, and if you want to DM a session, I need proof that you're mature enough to handle it. Currently your behaviour in this forum isn't very flattering, and you can't blame me for not saying yes to your request immediately.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 18, 2005, 06:35:09 PM
Whatever.

Also, Jarrod, we're thinking of using the WORLD as a setting, not the actual game.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Brassfire on March 18, 2005, 09:21:14 PM
Morrowind would be better to RP in with a chat precisely because it's only 1-player in the game. (Although someone has come out with a buggy multiplayer thing for it.) If you want to play with friends inside NWN, you can do it without needing a chat.

The world of Morrowind is huge and very well developed. It'd be a LOT of fun, most likely.

LB might make a good DM for a Morrowind RP as he's the one who suggested it in the first place. Striker has a lot of knowledge of the world but wouldn't be as good as a DM.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jarrod on March 18, 2005, 10:41:57 PM
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Morrowind would be better to RP in with a chat precisely because it's only 1-player in the game. (Although someone has come out with a buggy multiplayer thing for it.) If you want to play with friends inside NWN, you can do it without needing a chat.

The world of Morrowind is huge and very well developed. It'd be a LOT of fun, most likely.

LB might make a good DM for a Morrowind RP as he's the one who suggested it in the first place. Striker has a lot of knowledge of the world but wouldn't be as good as a DM.
Brassfire: Any links on the mutliplayer?  Morrowind is a kick ass game.  Very well developed, awesome graphics and a cool construction kit to make new worlds and places.  


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jigen on March 19, 2005, 01:12:35 AM
Boring as sh1t combat system though


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 19, 2005, 04:30:41 PM
Are you going somewhere with that or just complaining? I mean, the combat for the RPS isn't gonna be spamming the left mouse button.

 


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Striker on March 19, 2005, 06:11:21 PM
Jigen was obviously just commenting on the gameplay, Corsair.

Here's where you can find the required programs for  Morrowind Multiplayer (http://mwo.ravensky.org/downloads/), Jarrod.  I haven't had a chance to try them out myself, but I've heard they work.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jigen on March 20, 2005, 01:38:49 PM
LOL. Corsair I'm going to pretend someone other than YOU complained my post lacked a meaning or direction. Okay.

And yeah, I was dissing the game.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 20, 2005, 05:41:51 PM
Yeah, like QFG's was a whole lot different. But I digress.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jigen on March 21, 2005, 01:47:55 AM
Actually it was very different. Even in QFG 1, 3 & 5 there was a greater strategic element and at least you weren't wondering mindlessly for hours in between fights.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 21, 2005, 03:12:43 AM
Oh, yes. Rapidly clicking or pressing a button. That's greatly strategic.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jigen on March 21, 2005, 01:51:46 PM
It was still better than Morrowind.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jafar on March 21, 2005, 02:16:55 PM
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Oh, yes. Rapidly clicking or pressing a button. That's greatly strategic.
There was strategy in those games. Waiting for the enemy to lower their defenses in QFG1, moving in range in QFG4, etc.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 21, 2005, 04:22:32 PM
In 1Old, 2, 3, and 5, it was click or press button. Only in 4 and 1new was there a semblance of strategy.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Striker on March 21, 2005, 05:10:51 PM
I actually have to agree with Corsair for once.  I would say that Morrowind's combat was better than HQ and about the same level as 3 and 5.  I haven't played enough of 2 to make a judgement call.  Both 4 and 1vga were fairly good.  Though, in 1vga, if your character was powerful enough, you could just stand there and hack away at the enemy... just like Morrowind.

There were a few battles in Morrowind (especially plug-ins) that require strategy.  I know Gaenor in Tribunal is one tough mofo.  He hit too hard to stand and beat him up and his luck was so high that I couldn't hit him arrows, so I actually had to use a spear to bring him down, staying just out of his range.

Playing as a werewolf added some interesting twists.  Having super speed, stealth, and acrobatic ability (but low armor) added some new elements where hit, hide, and run tactics were sometimes necessary.

I also remember that early in the game that in order to beat some of the tougher creatures, I would use levitate, then pummel them with arrows or fireballs from the air.  Arrows were better since magic was seriously underpowered in that game.

But yeah, the combat engine in Morrowind was generally crappy.  They're supposedly making it much better in Oblivion.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 21, 2005, 06:07:37 PM
Hopefully. That was the only weak point of Morrowind, and if they shore that up in Oblivion, then it could easily be in my top five favorite games.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Striker on March 21, 2005, 07:01:34 PM
Some people didn't like the vastness of Morrowind, but personally, I loved it.  I remember NPC AI being another problem with the game and I believe they are addressing that issue too.  As I said earlier, I also hope they rebalance weapons vs. magic.  I played a Nightblade, but I hardly ever used destructive magic because it was so weak.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 22, 2005, 01:07:20 AM
Yeah, they're definitely adressing AI. Like, the best AI in the history of computers.

It's called Radiant AI. Essentially, each of the NPCs has a life. Really. They'll walk around, go buy stuff, gossip with other townsfolk. I mean, I think they'll do about everything that you can possibly think of. Even brawl.

Magic is being adressed as well, though at the moment, God only knows how.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Jigen on March 22, 2005, 01:46:07 PM
It wasn't so much the vastness of the game that I didn't enjoy but the directionless feel of it. Yeah you could do anything and explore anywhere, but to me that just means it's pointless. I didn't feel like i was achieving anything. I bought it, played it obsessivle for three days, then put the controller down and felt no inclination whatsoever to take it up again.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Striker on March 22, 2005, 04:28:51 PM
I advanced the game through quests, so I usually had direction when playing.  After I left Scyda Neen for Balmora, I started doing quests for the various guilds there.  That way, I was earning money, information, and going places at the same time.  In my travels in those quests is usually where I'd run into further cool things, including sometimes extra little quests that you'd pick up along the way.  I remember there was a stretch between Caldera and Gnisis where it seemed I would always run into someone new who had some sort of interesting job for me to do.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 22, 2005, 05:04:50 PM
The only part of Morrowind that I REALLY hated was Vivec.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 24, 2005, 10:31:52 PM
Sorry about the semi-double post, I got an idea.

You know, we have a setting sitting right under our nose, and no one thought about it. Why not use the Hero6 world for the next RPS?


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Brassfire on March 24, 2005, 10:37:35 PM
Maybe once the game is out and people can see what the world is actually like.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 25, 2005, 01:44:00 AM
Yeah, we'd need a member of the Hero6 plot team to have any idea what was in the world.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Erasmus on March 25, 2005, 04:51:46 AM
And if we told you that, it wouldn't be a surprise!

(second post)

BTW, if people want the NWN campaign setting, what you really need is someone with good knowledge of the Forgotten Realms, since that is what NWN is in.


[edit by Swift] Man, this is priceless! I get to edit Erasmus' post for double-posting! :P  


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 25, 2005, 04:57:27 AM
Ooh, are you offering to DM the NWN RP, Erasmus? ;P


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 25, 2005, 07:04:11 AM
I could advise the NWN modguy, I know a good bit about the Forgotten Realms. Like, I know about a dozen of the Planes, a good bit about the Underdark, and about thirty towns, cities, and villages on Faerun.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Erasmus on March 26, 2005, 12:26:51 AM
Nobody mods meee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anyway, I would love to DM. The problem is time. I would need:
A. Time to write the adventure
B. Uninterrupted time to run the adventure.

I'll tell you what. I'll write an adventure, then if I have time I'll let you all know and I can run it :D

Might take me a while to write one though. Right now I switched out of FR and into Eberron. I might be able to just dig up an old adventure I've run and see what happens.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Swift on March 26, 2005, 03:18:06 AM
Sure, take your time. I'd love to see how the expert DM runs an RP. :) Thanks!


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on March 26, 2005, 04:08:15 AM
It's an interesting contrast between Swift's Style and Jigen's Style. I'd like to see your style, Mr. Crazy Wizard with a Rat Familiar.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Louisiana Night on April 06, 2005, 06:06:24 AM
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Yeah, we really outta drag LN out of the spudnut shop and finish it. :rolleyes:
Don't worry, I finished off those spudnuts days ago. :P

anyway...

My vote goes to Force of Nature. Although my second vote would be for Elder Scrolls.

I would finally get to use my Wabbajack in an RP. ;)

***hears Jafar screaming "NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

See how excited he is about the idea? :)


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Paladin0707077 on April 06, 2005, 07:12:25 PM
One would think he'd be used to stuff like that by now...

I have no preference. End of line.


Title: RPS polls
Post by: Corsair5 on April 06, 2005, 09:19:06 PM
I'd LOVE to come in with my Dunmer Battlemage. Fireballs, then an axe in the eyes! Buhahah!